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I love this band to bits and think they are among the best in the known world, however some of the wording in the first paragraph needs to be reworded in order for this article to be more NPOV. "Excellent" and "gorgeous" in particular may need to be revised. -- Francs2000 | Talk [[]] 16:42, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

How's that for you? Did my best! Selphie 16:48, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Fantastic! And so quick, too! -- Francs2000 | Talk [[]] 10:09, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome - i think i stumbled over it doing a "random page" Selphie 11:44, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC) **

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Requested move 14 March 2025

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Army of Lovers → Army Of Lovers – In nearly every official instance I can find of the band's name being used, the "O" in "Of" is capitalized, unless the name is stylized (such as on the design of an album cover). See their official website, Discogs listing, CD booklet insert for The Gods of Earth and Heaven, CD booklet insert for Sexodus. _{(I can only find one instance of a lowercase "o" being used; on the back cover of a CD booklet for Glory Glamour and Gold)} Rainbowlack (talk) 06:52, 13 March 2025 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Rainbowlack (talk) 21:43, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Copied from move request page) Toadspike replied:

@Rainbowlack We use sentence case for article titles and we generally prefer the name most commonly used in sources over the official name. A search at Ngrams shows that the lowercased version is far more prevalent in books. If you have evidence that the capitalized version is more prevalent in independent, reliable sources, please click the "discuss" link in your request to open a move discussion. Toadspike [Talk] 14:39, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback Toadspike! I did some more digging via Ngrams and Google Books.

It should be noted that:

1. The band, Army Of Lovers, was formed in 1987, so any results from before then should be excluded.

2. Academic usage of the phrase "Army of Lovers" tends to refer to the documentary Army of Lovers or Revolt of the Perverts.

This seems to be reflected in this search, with usage of "Army Of Lovers" overtaking "Army of Lovers or Revolt of the" in the early–mid 1990s. (Had to exclude the last word due to Ngrams' seven-word limit).

Again, uses with the lowercase o tend to refer to the documentary, or other moments/phenomena in queer history.

When looking at uses within the context of this specific band, most sources seem to use the capital O.

This Billboard article from 1992 capitalizes the O
Plus, this Billboard article from 1991. (Billboard consistently uses the capital O. I can only find one example, from 1995, of them using a lowercase o, but they return to capitalizing it in 1996.)
This CD listing from Ebony magazine
Spectrum Volume 3, Issue 1
From Blues & Soul
Page 5070 of The Encyclopedia of Popular Music: Smith, Leo-Wildchild

The only music/band-related source I consistently see using the lowercase o is SPIN magazine (example 1, example 2, example 3), used in much less formal contexts (e.g. anecdotes, opinion pieces). Rainbowlack (talk) 22:37, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]